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CARMINATI

Typical of the central northern area of Lombardy, it should derive from a nickname indicating how many worked or were in any case connected with the sanctuary or the lands of the Carmine (a widespread name in Lombardy among religious communities). additions provided by Dott. Flaviano Carminati Very ancient family whose most remote news comes from a brief of Pope John XVIII directed to Pietro Carminati of Valbrembilla on January 6th 1006 with which, among other privileges, he granted his son Giacomo, Canon, the succession in the bishopric of Bergamo, adding that each of the Carminati lineage carried by right the title of Count and Knight. The pontiff declaring this to grant him, for the "shown value against enemies of the faith in Christ, to its extension, & destruttione of the idols, manifests itself of the aforesaid offspring of Carminati, saying in short:" Concedimus, et mandamus for presentes ad hanc propaginem tuam, quia ex ipsa originem traximus ". Former copy brevis antiquis. In Pergam. Campidoglio de Guerrieri. This family has had for many centuries a particular relevance in the affairs of its territory. At the time of the factions, the Carminati siding for the Ghibellines fought the Guelphs and even challenged the wrath of the Duke of Milan and the Venetian Republic, who took possession of the city of Bergamo and its territory, destroyed all the villages in the valley in 1443, and the Carminati forced to take exile. they took refuge mostly in Milan, where they divided into three main lines, they formed three different houses, namely the one known as the Bergamini Counts of San Giovanni in Croce, that a lived in Vigevano with the surname of Brambilla decorated by Charles VI Emperor of the Marchional title; and the third still flourishing in Milan with the name of Carminati of Brambilla ascribed to that patriciate in the XVIIIth century. They also spread to Genoa, Verona and Venice, in which last town they were ascribed to the patriciate in 1687. The surname probably derives from the Latin "Carminator", to identify a family nucleus involved in the processing of wool, which later became "de Carminatis", but an in-depth study of the emblem of this family, depicting the Carrus-Minians, may perhaps provide further elements on the origin of this very ancient surname. (Carrus-Miniatus was the symbolic wagon of the city of Milan which, in the form of "Carrochium", in the 12th century accompanied the Milanese in their battles of which the origins are not known and of which to date there are still no drawings or descriptions precise).

Bibliographic source' "L'origine dei cognomi Italianim storia ed etimologia" di E. Rossoni disponibile online su: https://archive.org/


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